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	<title>Comments on: Helen? JEALOUS? I think not.</title>
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		<title>By: Deborah Lipp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah Lipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Weiner said the hair thing wasn&#039;t creepy, I think he said that he didn&#039;t realize &lt;em&gt;Glenn himself&lt;/em&gt; was creepy. Which he totally is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Weiner said the hair thing wasn&#8217;t creepy, I think he said that he didn&#8217;t realize <em>Glenn himself</em> was creepy. Which he totally is.</p>
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		<title>By: Eme Kah</title>
		<link>http://madmenmad.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/helen-jealous-i-think-not/#comment-2099</link>
		<dc:creator>Eme Kah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 12:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Glass about Betty burdening Glenn. 

I did find the hair thing creepy. Maybe by itself it would have been more innocent but this happened AFTER Glen tried to look at Betty when she was in the bathroom. That&#039;s what gives the whole thing an especially sexual/creepy undertone. I also totally agree with Deb about Betty being both aware and unaware of the sexual overtones of the hair lock. She&#039;s crossing all sorts of boundaries with that kid, even if he is a weird little boy. In the parking lot scene, he came off as a lot more vulnerable and endearing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Glass about Betty burdening Glenn. </p>
<p>I did find the hair thing creepy. Maybe by itself it would have been more innocent but this happened AFTER Glen tried to look at Betty when she was in the bathroom. That&#8217;s what gives the whole thing an especially sexual/creepy undertone. I also totally agree with Deb about Betty being both aware and unaware of the sexual overtones of the hair lock. She&#8217;s crossing all sorts of boundaries with that kid, even if he is a weird little boy. In the parking lot scene, he came off as a lot more vulnerable and endearing.</p>
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		<title>By: Glass Darkly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glass Darkly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 03:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hair didn&#039;t creep me out as much as the scene outside the therapist&#039;s office. I  felt sorry for Betty, but also felt she needed to stop burdening a child with her problems -- and with keeping a secret.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hair didn&#8217;t creep me out as much as the scene outside the therapist&#8217;s office. I  felt sorry for Betty, but also felt she needed to stop burdening a child with her problems &#8212; and with keeping a secret.</p>
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		<title>By: Max the Communist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max the Communist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 03:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, it&#039;s interesting that Matt Weiner was surprised when he found out people thought the whole exchange between Betty and Glenn was creepy.  

I think during this time people thought far less about child molesting and teachers having sex with students, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, it&#8217;s interesting that Matt Weiner was surprised when he found out people thought the whole exchange between Betty and Glenn was creepy.  </p>
<p>I think during this time people thought far less about child molesting and teachers having sex with students, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Roberta Lipp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberta Lipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daddy&#039;s army buddy was got her quite a deal. Either she stayed in the old house until they had to sell, or she was in an apartment until they finally settled, then back into a house. 

The &#039;infant&#039; is around two, as I recall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daddy&#8217;s army buddy was got her quite a deal. Either she stayed in the old house until they had to sell, or she was in an apartment until they finally settled, then back into a house. </p>
<p>The &#8216;infant&#8217; is around two, as I recall.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah Lipp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah Lipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Betty both did and didn&#039;t know it was sexual. As little-girl as Betty is, she&#039;s also constantly horny and she longs to be looked at &quot;that way.&quot;

It was very hard to get a full-time, or even part-time sitter in those days, especially for an infant. Unless you could hire a grandmother type, you were screwed. And Helen doesn&#039;t know the neighborhood (although I have to say, that part rings false; normally you keep the house and the husband moves out, or you can&#039;t afford the house and you get an apartment—this is betwixt and between).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Betty both did and didn&#8217;t know it was sexual. As little-girl as Betty is, she&#8217;s also constantly horny and she longs to be looked at &#8220;that way.&#8221;</p>
<p>It was very hard to get a full-time, or even part-time sitter in those days, especially for an infant. Unless you could hire a grandmother type, you were screwed. And Helen doesn&#8217;t know the neighborhood (although I have to say, that part rings false; normally you keep the house and the husband moves out, or you can&#8217;t afford the house and you get an apartment—this is betwixt and between).</p>
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		<title>By: Max the Communist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max the Communist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I admire Helen and respect her for living through all the Stepford-wife-bullshit she has to put up with everyday--but all the same, I think her judgement of Betty for giving Glen a lock of her hair was strangely premature.  It&#039;s even odder that she consulted with her ex-husband about what to do before even checking with Betty for her side of the story.  It&#039;s doubtful that Glen&#039;s parents are even aware that their son is a golden-shower peeping Tom--maybe learning that might make Betty giving the lock of hair seem even weirder to them!

But for Betty&#039;s part, I think the gift of her hair was pretty innocent.  She is used to the idea of being adored for her beauty and probably never associated anything sexual with it.  The fact that Helen and her husband would make that assumption shocks Betty into slapping Helen in the supermarket (which, by the way, I love for all its Stepford decor--I could stare at those rows of fruit forever).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admire Helen and respect her for living through all the Stepford-wife-bullshit she has to put up with everyday&#8211;but all the same, I think her judgement of Betty for giving Glen a lock of her hair was strangely premature.  It&#8217;s even odder that she consulted with her ex-husband about what to do before even checking with Betty for her side of the story.  It&#8217;s doubtful that Glen&#8217;s parents are even aware that their son is a golden-shower peeping Tom&#8211;maybe learning that might make Betty giving the lock of hair seem even weirder to them!</p>
<p>But for Betty&#8217;s part, I think the gift of her hair was pretty innocent.  She is used to the idea of being adored for her beauty and probably never associated anything sexual with it.  The fact that Helen and her husband would make that assumption shocks Betty into slapping Helen in the supermarket (which, by the way, I love for all its Stepford decor&#8211;I could stare at those rows of fruit forever).</p>
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		<title>By: Glass Darkly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glass Darkly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Helen made the wrong call in opting to avoid Betty, or even that she was in denial, but just that she isn&#039;t immune to avoiding social awkwardness. When she did say something, there was in fact, all sorts of awkwardness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Helen made the wrong call in opting to avoid Betty, or even that she was in denial, but just that she isn&#8217;t immune to avoiding social awkwardness. When she did say something, there was in fact, all sorts of awkwardness.</p>
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		<title>By: hullaballoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>hullaballoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing I wonder about Helen is if she wants to do other work. She has a degree, she&#039;s fluent in French--she could teach, or work as an interpreter, or a lot of other government work. I&#039;m sure she wants and needs to be close to home because she has young children, but teaching would give her flexibility, and probably a little more money and fulfillment than what she gets at the jewelry store. Unless she gets really good discounts...and commission. If she gets that, then ... never mind </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing I wonder about Helen is if she wants to do other work. She has a degree, she&#8217;s fluent in French&#8211;she could teach, or work as an interpreter, or a lot of other government work. I&#8217;m sure she wants and needs to be close to home because she has young children, but teaching would give her flexibility, and probably a little more money and fulfillment than what she gets at the jewelry store. Unless she gets really good discounts&#8230;and commission. If she gets that, then &#8230; never mind</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah Lipp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah Lipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote about &lt;a href=&quot;http://madmenmad.wordpress.com/2008/03/07/the-slap/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the slap&lt;/a&gt; before, and it still feels right. Betty was enraged and wasn&#039;t allowed to express her rage. Because Helen is &quot;other&quot; (divorced), Betty and Francine feel comfortable projecting all their anger and unhappiness about their lives, their marriages, their sexuality, et al onto Helen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote about <a href="http://madmenmad.wordpress.com/2008/03/07/the-slap/" rel="nofollow">the slap</a> before, and it still feels right. Betty was enraged and wasn&#8217;t allowed to express her rage. Because Helen is &#8220;other&#8221; (divorced), Betty and Francine feel comfortable projecting all their anger and unhappiness about their lives, their marriages, their sexuality, et al onto Helen.</p>
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